Balancing Passion and Boundaries: Lessons from Frank Martela

In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, host Andrew engages in an insightful conversation with Frank Martela, PhD about the nature of meaningful work, the dimensions of well-being, and the interconnections between sustainability and human thriving.

Dr. Martela is an Assistant Professor at Aalto University, Finland, with dual doctorates in organizational research and practical philosophy. His work focuses on meaningfulness, human motivation, and how organizations can unleash human potential. A renowned expert on meaning and happiness, his research seeks to understand the fundamentals of happiness, meaningfulness, and the good life.

Defining Meaningful Work

Martela begins by discussing his influential research on defining meaningful work. He explains that meaningful work generally refers to work that has intrinsic value beyond just financial compensation.

Through a comprehensive review of existing literature, Martela and his colleagues identified three key dimensions of meaningful work: overall significance, self-realization, and broader purpose.

Overall significance refers to the sense that work is worthwhile and valuable in itself.

Self-realization involves the ability to express oneself and engage in activities aligned with one's interests and values.

Broader purpose encompasses the feeling of contributing to something beyond oneself and having a positive impact on others or society.

Martela emphasizes that meaningful work involves both a connection to oneself and a connection to others or the wider world. This conceptualization provides a useful framework for understanding and fostering meaningfulness in various work contexts.

The Relationship Between Meaning and Purpose

An interesting discussion unfolds about the relationship between meaning and purpose, two concepts that are often intertwined in research and popular discourse.

Martela offers a nuanced perspective, suggesting that meaning is a broader concept encompassing all things that make life or work feel valuable, while purpose is more future-oriented, involving goals and projects that contribute to meaning. He notes that while purpose is often a key source of meaning, meaningful experiences can occur without explicit purpose, such as enjoying time with friends.

This distinction helps clarify the roles of meaning and purpose in both work and life contexts, highlighting the importance of considering both in efforts to enhance well-being and fulfillment.

The Dark Side of Meaningful Work

While meaningful work is generally associated with positive outcomes, Martela acknowledges potential downsides. He points out that people who find their work highly meaningful may be more susceptible to exploitation or overwork. Additionally, strong dedication to meaningful work might lead to neglecting other important life domains, resulting in work-life imbalance.

These insights underscore the importance of maintaining balance and boundaries, even when engaged in deeply meaningful work.

A New Model of Well-being

Martela introduces his innovative model of well-being, which is grounded in human needs and nature. The model consists of four dimensions:

• Having: Meeting basic physical and safety needs.

• Loving: Fulfilling social needs and relationships.

• Doing: Engaging in purposeful activities and growth.

• Being: Experiencing positive emotions and life satisfaction.

This framework offers a nuanced approach to understanding and measuring well-being, with potential applications in both policy and organizational contexts.

Applying the Model to Work Contexts

The conversation explores how Martela's well-being model can be applied specifically to work settings.

In the workplace, "having" involves basic safety, security, and fair compensation. "Loving" at work relates to belongingness, community, and supportive relationships. "Doing" encompasses learning, growth, competence, and purposeful impact. "Being" reflects job satisfaction and positive emotional experiences at work.

This application provides a holistic lens for evaluating and enhancing employee well-being across multiple dimensions. Soren and Martela discuss how these concepts can be measured and implemented in organizational settings, highlighting the importance of both comprehensive annual surveys and more frequent, simplified check-ins to gauge employee well-being.

Sustainability and Well-being

The episode concludes with a discussion on the crucial relationship between sustainability and well-being. Martela argues that the ultimate goal of politics and policy should be to promote well-being in a sustainable manner. This involves recognizing environmental limits and planetary boundaries, designing economic and social systems that maximize well-being within these limits, and developing standardized measures for both well-being and environmental impact to inform decision-making.

Martela emphasizes the need for an integrated approach to human flourishing and environmental stewardship, highlighting the importance of long-term thinking in our pursuit of well-being. He suggests that by considering well-being and sustainability together, we can create policies and practices that support human thriving while respecting the constraints of our planet.

Resources for further exploration:

For more information on Frank Martela's work and the topics discussed, listeners are encouraged to explore his website and visit the Aalto University website.

Principled Insubordination: Lessons From Dr. Todd Kashdan

In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, Andrew sits down with Dr. Todd B. Kashdan, Professor of Psychology at George Mason University and author of "The Art of Insubordination: How to Dissent and Defy Effectively."

As one of the main figures in the positive psychology movement, Dr. Kashdan brings over 20 years of research on purpose, meaning, and well-being to this conversation about the value of principled rebellion in creating more meaningful work environments.

The Evolution of Purpose Research

The conversation begins with a reflection on how research on purpose and meaning has evolved over the past two decades. Kashdan highlights a key insight: "A lot of the things that were originally discussed as the defining features of purpose in life are actually things that could amplify it, or there are things in the environment that could influence it."

This distinction is crucial because it shifts our focus to potential intervention targets.

For example, rather than seeing an enriching environment as an inherent part of having purpose, we can now explore how factors like green spaces might influence the development of purpose in young people.

Kashdan also emphasizes that while disadvantaged circumstances can make it harder to commit time and effort to one's purpose, they don't inherently prevent someone from having a sense of purpose.

This nuanced understanding opens up new avenues for supporting purpose development across diverse populations.

The Value of Principled Rebellion

The heart of the conversation centers on Kashdan's recent book, "The Art of Insubordination." He argues that fostering principled rebellion is crucial for creating more innovative, inclusive, and meaningful work environments. Kashdan presents an equation of principled insubordination:

(Defiance x Authenticity + Contribution) / Social Pressure

This equation highlights the importance of genuine, constructive dissent in the face of social conformity pressures.

Kashdan asserts that "Dissent opens people's minds, conformity closes people's minds." Even when a dissenting idea is ultimately wrong, it stimulates "cognitive liberation," encouraging more creative problem-solving within the group. He further argues that "permitting and embracing dissent unlocks the benefits of diversity." It's not enough to have diverse team members; organizations need to create environments where unique perspectives are truly heard and valued.

Navigating the Challenges of Principled Rebellion

While advocating for more principled rebellion, Kashdan doesn't shy away from discussing the potential pitfalls. He introduces the concept of the "Black Sheep Effect," where dissenters often face harsher criticism from their in-group than outsiders would. This can make speaking up emotionally challenging. He also discusses the "Power Paradox," noting a tendency for successful dissenters to become inflexible once they gain majority support, potentially stifling future innovation.

Kashdan acknowledges that embracing dissent can create short-term inefficiencies but argues it leads to more robust, innovative solutions in the long run.

Strategies for Fostering Constructive Dissent

Kashdan offers several practical strategies for individuals and organizations looking to cultivate healthier dissent. He recommends that individuals diversify their identity portfolio, investing in multiple dimensions of their identity beyond work. This creates resilience, allowing people to better weather potential backlash from speaking up.

For organizations, he emphasizes the importance of separating task conflict from relationship conflict. This distinction allows for more productive discussions about ideas or methods without damaging working relationships.

When dissenting, individuals should focus on how their ideas contribute to shared goals rather than simply opposing the status quo. Kashdan also stresses the importance of creating safe spaces for minority perspectives. Even as formerly marginalized groups gain acceptance, it's crucial to maintain spaces where unique cultural identities can be fully expressed and honored.

Implications for Meaningful Work

This conversation has profound implications for how we think about creating meaningful work environments. It underscores the importance of psychological safety, where people feel secure expressing dissenting views without fear of personal repercussions. Leaders must recognize that fostering meaningful dissent often involves navigating complex trade-offs between short-term efficiency and long-term innovation.

Kashdan's insights challenge us to redefine success in organizational culture. Rather than seeing unanimity as a sign of strong culture, organizations should celebrate constructive disagreement as a marker of psychological safety and innovation potential. For individuals, engaging in principled rebellion can be a powerful source of meaning, allowing them to align their work with deeply held values and contribute to positive change.

By fostering environments that welcome principled rebellion, organizations can unlock greater innovation, inclusivity, and, ultimately, more meaningful work for all.

Resources for further exploration:

• The Art of Insubordination: How to Dissent and Defy Effectively by Todd B. Kashdan

• Origins of purpose in life: Refining our understanding of a life well lived by Todd B. Kashdan & Patrick E. McKnight

• Differential contributions of majority and minority influence by Charlan J. Nemeth

• The Power Paradox: How We Gain and Lose Influence by Dacher Keltner

Discovering Your Calling: Lessons from Jeffery Thompson

In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, Andrew Soren spoke with Jeff Thompson, Director of the Sorensen Center for Moral and Ethical Leadership at BYU, where he has also been a professor for over 20 years. Jeff’s calling in life is to assist people in discovering and pursuing their own sense of calling, and his work focuses on meaningful work, particularly in health care.

Thompson has spent his career researching how individuals discover a sense of calling in their work, which he came to through his work helping to make physicians feel valued at work, as well as understanding why medical professionals struggle to work for corporate entities. Ultimately, he is passionate about ensuring that organizations feel safe and that people can express their values at work.

Discovering a Calling

Thompson offers a nuanced definition of a calling, describing it as the intersection of one's natural talents, passions, and a sense of purpose that beckons them. He emphasizes the importance of passion, purpose, and place in defining a calling, drawing parallels to eudaimonic theories of meaningful work.

The idea of a calling can be traced throughout history, finding its roots with Martin Luther in the Protestant Reformation. Prior to Luther's time, work was often viewed as mundane or even burdensome, but Luther introduced the notion that work could be a noble endeavor, a partnership with God to bless humanity. This transformed the perception of work, imbuing it with a sense of purpose and dignity. The term "calling" emerged from this religious context but has since become secularized, with individuals from diverse backgrounds seeking meaningful work experiences.

There are some contemporary challenges with the idea of a calling, as Thompson explains, noting that while there is a widespread desire for meaningful work, there is often ambiguity about who or what is doing the calling. This ambiguity may lead to a sense of entitlement to a fulfilling career without a clear understanding of its origins or implications.

The Popularity of Meaningful Work

In recent years, Thompson says, there has been a surge in interest in meaningful work and finding a calling, especially among students. Thompson explains that, as an educator, he has observed a shift in  students' aspirations towards finding meaningful work. He notes a growing desire among individuals to feel valued and make a meaningful contribution, reflecting an inherent human urge to matter in society.

Transcendent Calling

Thompson also explores the idea of a "transcendent calling," as discussed in a recent article he co-authored with Stuart Bunderson.

Drawing inspiration from Abraham Maslow's theory of self-transcendence, the idea proposes that a transcendent calling occurs when an individual's inner passion aligns with an external purpose or societal need. This alignment represents the pinnacle of motivation and fulfillment, bridging personal fulfillment with broader societal contribution.

Thompson’s own studies reflect this theory, particularly one on zookeepers, which challenged stereotypes about their profession. Despite low pay and challenging working conditions, zookeepers expressed a profound sense of calling and dedication to their work. This dedication stemmed from their passion for animals and their belief in the importance of their role in conservation efforts.

Exploitation in the Workplace

Through this research, Thompson also discovered the idea of “commitment camouflaging”, where employees hide their dedication to avoid exploitation by management.

Thompson says that many people will find value in their work, despite challenging circumstances. Even the jobs that seem the most menial can be imbued with purpose and meaning.

Teachers are among those professionals who often face significant exploitation in the workplace, but many remain committed to their calling due to the importance of their work. According to Thompson, individuals may be able to mitigate the negative effects of such exploitation if they feel a profound sense of calling.

Leadership and a Sense of Calling

Thompson emphasizes the concept of dignity, which highlights the infinite worth of individuals and the importance of recognizing their contributions, especially in the workplace. He suggests that leaders should remain aware of their employees’ desire to find a calling, and they should view that quest as noble.

Therefore, they should strive to honor, reward, and respect that endeavor accordingly for all employees.

Thompson provides a number of ways to put this into practice, including expressing gratitude, offering opportunities for initiative and growth, and fostering a sense of community among like-minded individuals.

Final Thoughts

All employees should feel that their work is respected and their desire for a greater purpose is understood. For anyone who feels their calling is not recognized, Thompson advises seeking support from peers.

He also urges every person to understand that there are risks to the search for a calling, as leaning too far into that desire can cause a severe moral burden that is hard to emerge from.

Meaning is inherently existential in nature and, therefore, it can be difficult to find. It is likely an ongoing quest that will last a lifetime.